Some have come close, but ultimately had complete deal breakers (almost always a version of 'if the media player is on the screen then it's the ONLY thing on the screen'). I've used more media players and different versions of each than I can possibly remember. After that I began a once-every-two-year tradition of trying to find a replacement. horrible music player (and no window shade). Ended up settling on Zoom Player by Inmatrix while keeping winamp for music. I first started looking for alternatives when I decided I wanted an integrated music and video player that handled video better than winamp. Today there is very little that it does better than it's competition. Back in the day when media players were few and far between and DirectX was still in its infancy WinAMP was a god amongst media players. I first started using it back in '95 when it was Winamp 2. I've used WinAMP for a very, very long time. Every other media player out there seems determined to take up as much screen real estate as possible. It's a feature that only winamp and mms seem to have (and mms has been obsolete for over a decade). I've never seen an answer that even comes close to satisfying me. I've probably read hundreds of such threads on many dozen different forums over the last decade.